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DISCLAIMER:

To the reader, what you are about to read is crude, offensive, blunt and extremely subjective. This poem is written in a moment of severe bitterness, anger and frustration at both FEMALES and MALES, with the subject directed at males. While I understand that it "takes two to tango," and the examples in my poem are stereotyped males, YOU must understand that it is not written to ALL MEN. It is written to the men that have screwed over their women in more ways than one. Just those men. I think that's what people are missing. If you're a man, and you've respected your lady, then you have more respect and adoration from me than I can express. Because you're MAN NUMBER ONE that I have met that has ever respected and honored his lady the way she ought to be. When I start to see more of you, the loving, caring and respectful men, then I will write a poem to express my thanks to you, because you are the exception who ought to be the rule.

Until then: if you have something to criticize me about, please do it articulately and calmly. These three poems (Mr. Right; Memories of You; To the Men) are my first poems after a year and a half dry spell: they are my angels, my water in a drought. I'm working on it, from my content to my

I can't ask that you will accept me or my writing: but I can ask that you respect it, because it is a part of me I'm trying to lose. In writing this out, I'm trying to let it go. How many of you have ever been so angry, or hurt, or confused that only writing out your pain and hurt makes you feel better? Only writing can clear my head and help me realize the way for me to leave it all behind.

And to those of you I have hurt: I am sorry. To be quite honest, I didn't think anyone would ever read this poem on [link], much less comment on it. I am really quite surprised - scratch that - fucking floored. I really can't believe any of it. I know a lot of you are angry at my bluntness and bitterness. The best I can hope for is that it made you think.

Best regards,
Olympe


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This is just a little letter
To all the males out there in the world that are
Too hyped up and egocentric
Hedonistic and dominant to say
"Yes, IТll take responsibility for my sexual exploits.
Yes I know there are consequences
When I whip out my dick
And fuck a girl.
Yes IТll take out a rubber and stay safe.
IТll unwrap a condom and take care of my life."

You guys think you're so untouchable, donТt you?

This is for the guys who are too macho for responsibility.
This is for the guys who can't come wearing a rubber.
This is for the guys who think protection is unnecessary.
This is for all those guys who forget that their women have responsibility too.

GODDAMN MUTHERFUCKER!
I"M GONNA SQUEEZE YOUR NUTSACK UNTIL IT OOZES!
THAT'S WHAT VENERIAL DISEASE IS LIKE! USE A FUCKING CONDOM!

BASTARD SON OF A BITCH!
I'M GOING TO GRAB YOUR DICK AND SLAM IT AGAINST A TOILET UNTIL IT'S RED AND CROOKED!
THAT'S WHAT PREGNANCY IS LIKE! USE A FUCKING CONDOM!

This is for the guys that never get tested for sexual diseases.
This is for the guys that think AIDS is just for gay men.
This is for the guys that don't tell their partners they have a disease.
This is for the guys that pass their sins onto the next girl they fuck.

DOUBLE CROSSING ASSHOLE!
I'M GONNA GET THE BIGGEST LONELIEST PRISON CELL MATE
WITH THE SAGGING MAN-TITS AND THROBING DICK
TO FUCK YOU REPEATEDLY UNTIL YOU BLEED!
THIS IS WHAT VENERIAL DISEASE IS LIKE! USE A FUCKING CONDOM!

DAFT FUCKING BASTARD!
I'M GOING TO RIP AROUND YOUR TESTICLES UNTIL THEY ARE LODGED IN YOUR ASS
AND THEN HAVE A FIVE-YEAR-OLD PIERCE YOUR DICKSKIN!
THIS IS WHAT PREGNANCY IS LIKE! USE A FUCKING CONDOM!

This is for the guys who tell their girlfriends if they got pregnant, they would marry them.
This is for the guys who get their girlfriends pregnant, and desert them.
This is for the guys who never visit their children, and never pay child support.
This is for all those guys who forget that women take over when guys leave.

MOTHERFUCKING PRICK!
I'M GOING TO CLAMP YOU IN A NUTCRACKER
AND BREAK YOU OPEN LIKE A WALNUT ON CHRISTMAS!
THIS IS WHAT VENERIAL DISEASE IS LIKE! USE A FUCKING CONDOM!

SELF-INDULGENT JACKASS!
I'M GOING TO SHOVE A FOOTBALL UP YOUR ASS
FOR TWENTY FOUR HOURS, AND THEN SLOWLY LET YOU
POP IT OUT, ONLY TO SHOVE IT BACK IN AGAIN AND REPEAT THE PROCESS!
THIS IS WHAT PREGNANCY IS LIKE! USE A FUCKING CONDOM!

IТm sick of your ignorance,
Your irresponsibility,
Your blinding macho asshole mentality.
The world does not revolve around you.
And until you suffer yourself
The pain and the confusion
The emotional turmoil and the breaking point
The life altering decisions
Take a step back and appreciate us
And what we go through.
Realize you are not the end all and be all.
With great power
Comes great responsibility.

This is what life is like. Use a fucking condom.
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THUMP-R-B Featured By Owner Oct 14, 2011
A life time of misery, for a moment of pleasure. Use a fucking condom!
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phillipant Featured By Owner Jun 8, 2011  Hobbyist Digital Artist
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ILoveBigCats Featured By Owner Apr 16, 2011  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
Or just don't fuck someone who won't wear a condom.
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computerscience87 Featured By Owner Feb 9, 2009  Hobbyist Writer
Wow, this is A quite powerful poem. It really make you think... though it's vile it is required to grab the attention of the target audience.

Great Job! Don't let anyone tell you differently...
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Caith Featured By Owner May 26, 2007
Dear assholes: A poem is a spouting of emotion at the moment. The moment is passed, and now here it is to take as you will. This writer did their best. They were hurt and they worked it out. If you can't respect that and the disclaimer that clearly says what I just repeated, then go trip in a hole and die. It's people like you that make people like me want to move to Mars.

To the poet: Your meter was a little wonky, and there was far too much swearing. Swear words lose their power when constantly repeated. Be sparse to be shocking.

PS- I think you're getting somewhere. Even if other morons don't.
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martzs Featured By Owner Nov 23, 2002   Photographer
you sound angry...
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gavinscotts Featured By Owner Sep 20, 2002
man....never thought a couple bad mistakes and some anger could get all of you so stirred up. if you don't like it, don't read it. she doesn't NEED your comments. she wrote it for her because she was pissed at how some of her girls were getting treated...not just by men but by themselves. and we're not militant feminists with "kill men" shirts and combat boots. we were just mad. mad at ourselves as friends to these women and mad at our friends for being these women. and yes it's titled "letter to men", but it's a letter to everyone. men were just who she was blaming at that moment. don't act like you've never blamed someone else for your own mistakes. don't act like you've never stereotyped. why the hell do you think people made up god? we NEED someone to blame and in this men got the blame. i'm pro men. i think men get a lot of undeserved shit. and there are SOME good guys out there. i haven't met many but maybe i just have bad luck....and having gotten far enough out of the SUBURBS (thank you very much, fatbuddha). but i have been around. (not that sort of around. i don't fuck people condom or no. i'm a sensualist and an eroticist, but i'm also grew up knowing that sex, no matter how we try to desensitize it, is never just sex). but really. yeah it's controversial. the whole pregnancy issue. and it does take two to tango and various other things. and she didn't mean to offend, she meant to make you think. obviously, she succeeded on some levels.
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jklunde Featured By Owner Sep 20, 2002
ciaran-

There's nothing more arrogant than someone trying to censor someone else for aesthetic reasons. While I admit that my comment might have condoned such action if read from certain perspectives, I don't advocate censorship in this manner. What I'm trying to get across is that self-censorship is a great thing and a discipline that humanity needs in order to function. Each person decides what is appropriate to make public and what is best left private, a skill and responsibility that every human owns due to the innate sense of reason we all have.

It's not really about the golden rule either. It's about refusing to stereotype, refusing to believe that everyone is the same, refusing to place people in a box because they happen to have a penis.

Think about it. Neither sex has a monopoly on being a dick.

Rather than a "self-appointed dictator of validity" as you seem to think of me, understand that I am merely one voice in the community. I'm using my voice to say that I think this piece is tasteless and demeaning to the author's humanity. You use yours to say that you think she's expressing a valid point. What's wrong with either view? If you defend her freedom to post this piece, then you must understand the irony in that you are similarly defending my freedom to call it invalid.

Read the last sentence of your first paragraph adressed to me. This further irony follows in that your own expression that my view is "invalid" demonstrates that you yourself agree with my view that community members are adequately priveleged to render judgements of validity.

So what's your point? If you hold that my view is invalid, you champion the validity of my own expression about the author's work. It would be pretty difficult for you to have a logically defensible argument that both invalidates my view and validates the author's. I challenge you to try.
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u235 Featured By Owner Sep 20, 2002  Hobbyist Writer
I don't understand why everyone is taking this so personally. I mean did I miss something here? Did olympe hit the forums assulting every man on here by name and demanding that they read this poem? If so, that is bad, but it's a poem. You may not like it, you may not agree with it, you may think it is complete shit that doesn't deserve a minute of your time, but it is a poem. People has different opinions, different styles, different reasons for writing, but none of that makes any of it less valid. It may come off a little strong, but so what, it's an effect. I got you to read it, didn't it? It got you to think about it, didn't it? That's the point.

Personally I like this poem. It expresses a lot of raw emotion in a very effective way. It presents a message in a way that forces you to pay attention. You may not agree with that message, but again, the point is that you listened to it.
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utro Featured By Owner Sep 19, 2002
I'M GONNA GET THE BIGGEST BLACK ASS PRISON CELL MATE
WITH THE SAGGING MAN-TITS AND THROBING DICK
TO FUCK YOU REPEATEDLY UNTIL YOU BLEED!


That part really bothers me. I dont understand why you threw "black" in there to make the subject seem even less desireable.

As far as poetry goes, this isnt it. It's expression, yes. But so is slamming your fist into the wall. However, I dont see you stereotyping all males as ~jklunde says. Just those who think and act the way you described. And you have a right to say that. So I'm just going to leave this discussion as it is. But I do agree with ~ciaran about the overwhelming wall of mysogyny that exists still to this day. I think the underlying message in this poem is an important one. And would be far more respected from both sexes if it were more eloquently put. It is possible to show anger through eloquence.
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fatbuddha Featured By Owner Sep 19, 2002  Professional Traditional Artist
i have to admit I skipped about half of the poem befor commenting. My bad. I just want to say something. The responsible men you are all looking for, are sick of this attitude. Also about the pregnacy part. How many times have you seen a baby shoved back into a women? the football and the ass thing was a bad analogy. By the way, was it threads up or down?
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fatbuddha Featured By Owner Sep 19, 2002  Professional Traditional Artist
sorry. i didn't mean to vote dislike.
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fatbuddha Featured By Owner Sep 19, 2002  Professional Traditional Artist
hey that poem didn't ryme. there are some stupid men out there. So just kick them. But don't go on some weird feminist rampage. How would you like it if all the macho men formed clubs to express their anger about women. Clubs that gave them advice on how to make women have sex w/ them when they don't wear condems. The feminst view you have should it be put into a mans body, the certain ideas reversed ofcourse, .. would be a very scary person to come across. I'm sorry I don't make sense.

and about ~gavinscotts you really haven't travelled to far from the trailor park have you? theres lots of repsectable men out there, did you ever think they might not be looking for you?
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ciaran Featured By Owner Sep 19, 2002
~gavinscotts is demanding something impossible because content is connected to style (or the poem). To evaluate one means to evaluate the other.

~jklunde is assuming that we all somehow have this deep respect for the golden rule. Speech is something that is beyond any specific person's control (apart from the author), and before anyone starts on the 'DA follows different rules' I'd like to point out that this doesn't really same to violate DA rules either. So "guys" are offended. ~olympe can express her illogical (such as it is) opinion in the fashion that she has... that you are somehow struck by it cannot invalidate its existence, or its ability to request its place in DA. Whether or not there is a difference between dealing on your own and voicing whatever you have is irregardless because the choice between the two is not for the critic to make. Venting is a valid form of communication, maybe not poetry (something which actually has a myriad of definitions, whether or not anyone agrees) and the objection may be technical, but it cannot be wholesale. What I find invalid is the assumption of a dictatorial role in order to specify what is and is not valid: this is something that is impossible to accomplish in this day and age, and is philosophically weak.

There may be people worthy of your particular respect, but it does not follow that ~olympe is forced to respect them (at least mentally or verbally). The actual tragedy of someone being hurt overrides this poem... pregnancy trumps a deviantart submission.

As far as the style goes, this really isn't impressive, like the Iliad is impressive... and in fact blackhalo has probably stated the criticism it deserves in this regard.

Subject matter is controversial, sure, but the overwhelming belief that chicks are breeders is so numerous that even a vent of this magnitude (however large or small) is placed against an overwhelming wall of misogyny. DA itself is too small in order to provide an adequate ground for a debate on misogyny... and on both sides the answer cannot easily be found (except in baseless opinions). What ~olympe has written is actually tame to many things I read... most of these things that I read are better than the rest of the 'tame' things out there in the world of literature. We can obviously be like ~jklunde and shy away from it because it 'offends' someone... or we can understand it, because we know censorship to be, in and of itself, immature.

ciaran

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blackhalo Featured By Owner Sep 19, 2002   Writer
don't respond to the message, respond to the poem

ok ill respond to the poem:

oh look it sucked too.
thats all.
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ndifference Featured By Owner Sep 19, 2002  Professional Writer
Actually, I don't see any typos. ~thugnetwork's comment confuses me.
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jklunde Featured By Owner Sep 19, 2002
Gavin:

I get that it's a rage poem, I merely point out that it's a completely mis-placed rage. If you're making an argument that rage deserves its place, then I agree. If you're saying that the place for expressing rage is in an open forum at unknown people, then I completely and vehemently disagree. There's a difference between dealing with your own issues and making your expressions known to the world. Venting is not a valid form of poetry in my opinion, much as I think the philosophy behind this particular deviation is invalid.

The root of my point is this: she's expressing her anger at people she doesn't know.

There are not many respectable people out there, not just men or women.

The tragedy isn't that someone was hurt, it's that the bitterness is starting to rule their interactions with others.
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gavinscotts Featured By Owner Sep 19, 2002
you guys just don't get it. it's just a rage poem. it's not just about guys tho it's directed towards guys. it's about people who don't fucking think.

and yeah, it does take two to tango, and not all guys are such dick lips, but the ones that are ruin it for the rest of you. it's your responsibility too. you should have enough respect for yourself and the woman you're making love to to put on a condom. and no i'm not saying men always have to be the initiative in matters of the latex loving, i think women are just as bad. but nat is a woman, and she's pissed off, let her be pissed off. don't respond to the message, respond to the poem.

annnd no there are not MANY respectable men out there. traveling far and wide, i've found that the ones worth a shit are harder to find than a cure for AIDS.
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thugnetwork Featured By Owner Sep 19, 2002   Photographer
I don't even know where to start... This didn't make sense in the first place, how in the fuck can you complain, moan and groan about some guy not wearing a condom, you know, you could have said no. Walked away. That easy. It's not just the guys fault if something happened that was unplanned. You have your own responsibility to take care of yourself, you shouldn't have to have other people running around trying to figure out whats' best for you.

Second of all. Learn to fucking spell. I can't even comprehend most of your jumble that you throw together to forms words. This would make alot more sense if someone would use a dictionary while typing, let alone thinking it all up. Grammar does help get your point across, even emphasizes it more if you use big words!

And lastly... God, this was so anti-men it's sick. There are many, upon many respectable guys who know how to treat a lady that deserves their presence. You, if your view is really this self centered. Don't deserve one of them.

You have your own life. Try taking responsibility.
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ndifference Featured By Owner Sep 19, 2002  Professional Writer
"red and crooked?" If he won't wear a condom, don't fuck him. Duh. Now, that wasn't so difficult, was it?
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syragon Featured By Owner Sep 19, 2002
awesome philosophY!!!! Thumbs Down
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water-elemental Featured By Owner Sep 19, 2002   Writer
But on the other hand, you have your responsabilities, too. I wish I could say you had as much control over those situtuations as we do, but the truth is you have almost as much. It takes two to tango, sans rape. I'm not saying that it's all the girls fault, or whathaveyou, but I am saying that it is a shared responsability between two people.

~h2O
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jklunde Featured By Owner Sep 19, 2002
So glad to see you haven't become bitter.
So glad to see you understand responsibility is a two-way street
So glad to see you're being mature about your life
So glad to see you haven't stereo-typed all men because you happen to run across a bad apple
So glad to see you understand that neither sex has a monopoly on being a dick

THIS IS WHAT SARCASM IS LIKE. DEAL WITH IT.
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twistedboy Featured By Owner Sep 19, 2002
This is quite, quite vile.
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